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witnesses

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what's up everyone happy monday

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it is the start of what's gonna be

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a fantastic week

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um and i am so much looking forward to

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brown today

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which is fantastic he's been on the show

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once

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uh before and we had a really great time

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it was a great talk

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um and i just

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wait hold on what is this

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what is that emoji is that like a chimp

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farting or something

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yeah but um i don't know if you

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um did you guys see

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the video i played um

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where the first

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special guest is what's up jd

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um lou elizondo

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so that should be really neat i am

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um i've wanted to have him on the show

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so um it's it's pretty neat that that

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look for that on thursday today we have

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that it's going to be in the evening

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um and then on wednesday we have jessie

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um so that should be cool um thursday we

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um so spread the word tell people um so

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that they come to subscribe and

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and watch this week and it doesn't pass

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packed week um for sure

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a couple of the guests that are on this

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are featured in a netflix documentary

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which would be steve bassett nick pope

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some yeah that's it's gonna be a great

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vladimir putin what the hell is he

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you know decide to do what you want to

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subscribed to his like email newsletter

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true i guess but man all you guys are

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yeah they send candy yes they do

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the ufo problem as they say um

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a aerial phenomenon office which is

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on twitter as possibly the go-to for all

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this stuff and i gotta tell you the more

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the more i agree that something is up

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and it's pretty shoddy most of their

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specifically responsible

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um that was their job

290
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and they reported only to the dod

291
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and secretary of state

292
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and their funds typically come from from

293
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what i've read

294
00:15:35,829 --> 00:15:34,000
uh like extra

295
00:15:37,030 --> 00:15:35,839
extra funds that weren't used they kind

296
00:15:40,790 --> 00:15:37,040
of just grab it

297
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they take it

298
00:15:45,030 --> 00:15:43,600
in the document i was reading about them

299
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one of the

300
00:15:50,949 --> 00:15:48,480
lines describes as far as the

301
00:15:52,069 --> 00:15:50,959
attitudes of different people one of

302
00:15:55,590 --> 00:15:52,079
which would be

303
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the public politicians another would be

304
00:15:59,990 --> 00:15:56,880
the president

305
00:16:01,269 --> 00:16:00,000
and one of the lines said how the nro

306
00:16:04,629 --> 00:16:01,279
works with the president

307
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is heavily dependent

308
00:16:23,509 --> 00:16:17,430
and the nro was just like declassified

309
00:16:25,509 --> 00:16:23,519
as a organization i think

310
00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:25,519
at least a couple decades after its

311
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establishment which is pretty

312
00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:34,829
so there's a lot of stuff going on there

313
00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:40,710
but you know everything i look at or

314
00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:43,600
look for there's so much that's like

315
00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:46,320
on the cusp of some sort of great

316
00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:46,959
evidence

317
00:16:58,870 --> 00:16:56,790
you know that's just how it goes yeah i

318
00:17:02,150 --> 00:16:58,880
just i'm sure they

319
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classify the things they don't want you

320
00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:02,839
to see

321
00:17:09,029 --> 00:17:07,120
right but there's got to be

322
00:17:11,189 --> 00:17:09,039
something there's got to be some sort of

323
00:17:14,789 --> 00:17:11,199
paperwork or something

324
00:17:16,949 --> 00:17:14,799
that is unclassified that i can find

325
00:17:18,870 --> 00:17:16,959
somewhere and that's what i'm doing all

326
00:17:22,710 --> 00:17:18,880
this kind of work with the

327
00:17:25,750 --> 00:17:22,720
the different acronym agencies

328
00:17:26,309 --> 00:17:25,760
because you know there's definitely

329
00:17:28,870 --> 00:17:26,319
stuff

330
00:17:30,830 --> 00:17:28,880
that i've found that i wouldn't have you

331
00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:30,840
know without searching

332
00:17:37,990 --> 00:17:34,000
ftd ufo

333
00:17:46,870 --> 00:17:41,909
so that is

334
00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:55,750
and i'll show you something

335
00:18:03,029 --> 00:17:59,990
so this three letter agents

336
00:18:04,549 --> 00:18:03,039
see you guys hear me all right do i

337
00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:04,559
sound okay

338
00:18:15,909 --> 00:18:08,240
um yeah here it is

339
00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:22,789
the ufo of july 24th

340
00:18:33,990 --> 00:18:27,830
interesting

341
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,710
i don't know what the deal is

342
00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:42,549
mike's doing this weird uh delay thing

343
00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,990
1981

344
00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,950
so look at that um

345
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:08,830
the the patch for

346
00:19:14,549 --> 00:19:12,820
ftd is like a egyptian

347
00:19:21,270 --> 00:19:14,559
[Music]

348
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:41,990
i'll try and find it

349
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:49,350
check all right that's better yeah

350
00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:53,029
so what the heck is that

351
00:20:02,630 --> 00:19:56,640
uh foreign technology division okay

352
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:08,070
and the astronomy lover

353
00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:11,750
at 10 40 p.m july 24th 1981 several

354
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:13,039
million people

355
00:20:20,549 --> 00:20:16,799
in gaza's new kung eyes xinjiang

356
00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:20,559
i can't saw this uh province

357
00:20:24,789 --> 00:20:22,960
witnessed an amazing flying disc event a

358
00:20:26,710 --> 00:20:24,799
spectacular flying luminous body with a

359
00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:26,720
spiral shape appeared in the sky its

360
00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:28,320
central portion

361
00:20:33,029 --> 00:20:30,720
spins and moves slowly about a direction

362
00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:33,039
from east to west the wonderful

363
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:45,909
yeah so that was pretty interesting

364
00:20:45,919 --> 00:20:52,710
so that was china in the 70s so

365
00:20:59,190 --> 00:20:54,789
but yeah it's funny you find a lot of

366
00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:02,789
lots of weird documents

367
00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:06,320
um what we're going to talk about when

368
00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:08,960
scott comes on is colares the brazil

369
00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:10,960
case

370
00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:14,000
that involves like

371
00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:17,679
not so good of stuff

372
00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:21,440
um violence and a possible

373
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:31,909
which is i don't know

374
00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:33,909
it's a scary case and i guess the

375
00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:35,280
brazilian air force

376
00:21:38,789 --> 00:21:37,679
is all over it there's documents all

377
00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:38,799
that kind of stuff

378
00:21:46,549 --> 00:21:42,400
so we'll see um

379
00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:46,559
you know what it winds up saying

380
00:21:54,149 --> 00:21:50,240
or what he wants to talk about about it

381
00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:58,470
so i'm looking forward to having him

382
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:00,799
speak of the devil he's wearing a is it

383
00:22:05,669 --> 00:22:03,570
a cowboy hat

384
00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:05,679
[Laughter]

385
00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:09,840
i wore the hat in honor of you oh thanks

386
00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:12,559
oh that's awesome yeah it's you know

387
00:22:14,580 --> 00:22:13,360
have some fun

388
00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:14,590
we're ahead

389
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:17,600
[Laughter]

390
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:20,000
so how's it going sean uh pretty good

391
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:21,840
yeah i'm excited about this week

392
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:24,799
so it looks like he's got a good lineup

393
00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:25,440
yeah

394
00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:29,520
and um awesome to to start with you here

395
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:32,000
well thanks for having me again yeah

396
00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:32,960
it's my pleasure

397
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:35,919
i hope it's a reoccurring thing so um

398
00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:38,640
you wanted to talk about

399
00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:42,240
uh kolaris correct yes sir awesome

400
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:46,000
um what made you want to

401
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:49,200
talk about that uh in particular

402
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:52,799
um so i actually looked into it a long

403
00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:55,600
time ago um

404
00:23:01,510 --> 00:22:57,919
i i picked up a book years ago it's

405
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:01,520
called a ufo danger zone

406
00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:04,960
it's by bob pratt and

407
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:08,000
uh bob was a uh he was kind of a

408
00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:11,200
tabloid reporter uh from that area

409
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:15,120
or somewhere in brazil i guess um

410
00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:17,760
and he found out about it and i guess at

411
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:18,720
one point

412
00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:22,640
he left brazil oh but he ended up going

413
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:23,280
back there

414
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:25,520
multiple times because of this

415
00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:27,120
particular case

416
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:30,320
he began to gather documents and witness

417
00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:33,919
testimony and evidence uh

418
00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:37,039
yeah so um

419
00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:39,760
here where all the red spots are are

420
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:40,720
kind of where

421
00:23:47,669 --> 00:23:44,640
clustered uh incidents happened

422
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:47,679
um and it's it's hugely complex

423
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:51,039
because there were mixed in with

424
00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:54,559
uh the the objects causing injuries were

425
00:24:02,070 --> 00:23:58,240
um abductions um

426
00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:02,080
encounters in the home um

427
00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:05,200
you know uh sightings of beings uh in

428
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:06,480
the forest

429
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:09,760
uh just i mean just a multitude of

430
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:11,840
things so hit with like lasers too

431
00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:15,600
right right right so in in

432
00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:20,080
uh i believe it was the summer of 1977

433
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:24,080
uh these people began to

434
00:24:32,310 --> 00:24:27,520
encounter these glowing objects

435
00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:32,320
and as time went on uh they began to uh

436
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:34,480
get hit with these beams of light they

437
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:37,440
were causing injuries

438
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:41,360
so the mayors of a lot of these villages

439
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:43,600
began to complain to the local

440
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:45,520
government

441
00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:48,320
and so they said you know what we're

442
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:50,240
going to send in some people

443
00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:53,279
they get a hold of uh the brazilian air

444
00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:54,000
force

445
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:57,360
right they sent in a team and on the

446
00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:57,840
first

447
00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:00,559
night they were there they had two teams

448
00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:02,960
set up in two areas and they both had

449
00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:04,880
encounters

450
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:08,240
so they began to document this

451
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:11,279
and from the the

452
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:13,440
uh records that i've looked at there

453
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:14,480
were

454
00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:17,200
literally hundreds of photographs taken

455
00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:25,269
and some people who were there

456
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:29,279
claimed that the american military was

457
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:31,679
embedded

458
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:34,240
and also that the brazilian military was

459
00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:36,080
reporting back

460
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:38,000
to the american government about what's

461
00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:39,600
going on

462
00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:42,960
and when these rumors began to fly

463
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:46,559
all of a sudden the brazilian teams that

464
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:47,679
were there

465
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:49,840
were all of a sudden equipped with all

466
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:51,120
this equipment

467
00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:54,240
cameras and you know all kinds of

468
00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:56,240
equipment that they needed to document

469
00:26:01,269 --> 00:25:58,000
this

470
00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:01,279
um and uh keith basterfield uh

471
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:03,279
has uncovered a lot of documents that

472
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:04,960
are on his site about a bunch of

473
00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:06,000
different things

474
00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:09,760
okay um so let's see

475
00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:12,880
i got some notes here so some sometimes

476
00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:13,760
it's re

477
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:16,880
yeah so here's some of the injuries uh

478
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:18,720
you know and years later there you can

479
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:22,240
see the scar is still there

480
00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:25,200
they gave it a name called chupachupa

481
00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:26,320
which is

482
00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:29,919
suck and they believed that these

483
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:33,200
things were taking their blood

484
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:36,880
now here's a strange fact out of every

485
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:37,279
10

486
00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:41,919
people attacked eight of them were women

487
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:44,960
and the yeah and the women

488
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:48,640
were shot with the laser either in their

489
00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:50,320
left breast

490
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:53,600
their left arm or their left leg

491
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:55,840
always what the hell which is very

492
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:56,960
bizarre

493
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:00,640
um so um

494
00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:02,960
let's see sometimes it's referred to as

495
00:27:07,269 --> 00:27:03,919
the kolaris

496
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:07,279
islands invasion

497
00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:15,669
while while such accounts of similar

498
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:16,720
chupachupa

499
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:19,200
entities can be found throughout

500
00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:22,480
brazilian 20th century history

501
00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:27,039
the date of the 26th of april 1977

502
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:29,360
is largely regarded as the date when the

503
00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:35,840
phenomena became more aggressive

504
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:38,480
that night shortly after midnight four

505
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:39,279
fishermen

506
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,520
were sitting on their boat and you have

507
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:43,440
to remember that all these villages in

508
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:43,840
that

509
00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:49,760
they're all fishing villages right so

510
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:50,399
for them

511
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:53,440
to when this all began to happen

512
00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:56,240
they all stopped fishing nobody would go

513
00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:58,240
to the rivers they wanted to stay away

514
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,080
from the water

515
00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:02,399
the objects were seen going in and out

516
00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:03,360
of i think it's

517
00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:06,799
mariaho bay which is right there

518
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:10,080
off the coast and they witnessed

519
00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:12,000
these objects going in and out of the

520
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:15,039
water over and over again

521
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:16,960
some researchers believe that they

522
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:18,080
followed that river

523
00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:21,440
all the way up as a highway under water

524
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:24,559
and then came up out of the water and

525
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:27,039
of course all the spots are all dotted

526
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:27,760
along that

527
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:30,799
the river um and

528
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:33,840
these are um

529
00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:37,120
like others or are they in a craft of

530
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:38,880
some sort or

531
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:41,039
yeah you'll see in some of the sketches

532
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:43,679
that i sent you

533
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:47,360
i think it's nine to 12 different

534
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:50,799
shaped objects were seen which is

535
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:53,840
really bizarre but apparently they were

536
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:54,080
all

537
00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:56,320
seeing different things and and this is

538
00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:58,399
not uncommon i'm gonna go out of order

539
00:29:01,590 --> 00:28:59,919
here

540
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:01,600
yeah i didn't really send them in any

541
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:04,080
order so okay

542
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:05,760
well this is i think you were just

543
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:07,279
talking about this those are

544
00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:09,200
flight paths that the government

545
00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:10,399
documented

546
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:13,360
and they believed that these things were

547
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:14,240
flying like

548
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:17,840
grid patterns over the area looking for

549
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:19,039
people

550
00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:26,389
holy cow and it's so here's all the

551
00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:27,919
times

552
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:30,559
like 1am or so is that when all these

553
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:31,279
occurrences

554
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:34,399
happen typically i'm not sure exactly of

555
00:29:38,789 --> 00:29:35,360
the time but they

556
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:38,799
all happened almost uh

557
00:29:44,710 --> 00:29:42,000
all of them happened after dark

558
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:44,720
yeah so it was at night you know they

559
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:46,559
could come in do what they wanted to do

560
00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:47,919
and then take off

561
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:51,200
that's interesting so the

562
00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:53,279
there's a lot of weird other little

563
00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:55,520
facts to this thing

564
00:30:01,510 --> 00:29:59,120
um yeah so here's an

565
00:30:02,470 --> 00:30:01,520
artist's rendering of the sketch that's

566
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:02,480
above it

567
00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:05,360
that some people saw this cylinder that

568
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:06,880
was shooting this laser out of the

569
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:08,000
bottom of it they saw

570
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:14,710
um they were terrified so the brazilian

571
00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:17,120
air force comes in

572
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:19,120
they start documenting it they start

573
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:20,240
taking pictures

574
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:28,549
a bunch of them had their own encounters

575
00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:31,120
so i sent you a picture of the guy who

576
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:32,240
was in charge

577
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:36,720
uh see if i can remember his name

578
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:39,120
uh it's on there but i'm not is that the

579
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:40,399
last one you sent

580
00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:42,320
oh you know what i must have missed that

581
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:43,760
one well anyways

582
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:47,520
his name was uh uh

583
00:30:56,549 --> 00:30:51,360
colonel hollanda i think his name was

584
00:31:01,590 --> 00:30:59,269
had his own encounter and he gave

585
00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:01,600
witness testimony years later down the

586
00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:02,240
road

587
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:04,399
that one of these beings got a hold of

588
00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:06,799
him and was hugging him

589
00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:08,720
in the middle of the night and he was

590
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:10,720
terrified so

591
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:13,039
he finally got loose from it he said

592
00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:14,159
that it had a loot

593
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:18,080
uh kind of a tight fitting uniform

594
00:31:23,509 --> 00:31:21,120
he felt like that it had a mask on he

595
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:23,519
drew a sketch of it and it looks like a

596
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:25,200
typical gray

597
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:28,480
um and so

598
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:32,080
in 1995 i believe it was

599
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:34,640
he came forward and did a full interview

600
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:37,919
for the ufologists that were in brazil

601
00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:41,120
and i think it was

602
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:43,760
six months three years six months later

603
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:46,480
he killed himself

604
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:49,840
and um he you know

605
00:31:53,990 --> 00:31:52,480
at first wanted to go in there and they

606
00:31:57,029 --> 00:31:54,000
thought these people were just

607
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:57,039
a bunch of superstitious farmers

608
00:32:01,350 --> 00:31:59,120
until they got in there and realized

609
00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:01,360
this is really going on

610
00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:04,000
the doctor was a woman and i can't even

611
00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:05,519
say her name because it's like

612
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:08,720
i can't even pronounce it but she was

613
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:10,960
told by the military

614
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:14,640
to tell the people that there's no ufos

615
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:16,799
that this this is something else that's

616
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:17,760
happening

617
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:20,880
and she refused and she said i'm not

618
00:32:23,590 --> 00:32:21,840
going to do that

619
00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:23,600
these people are telling me what they're

620
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:26,000
seeing and i'm believing them

621
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:30,399
so she testified years later so

622
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:33,120
fast for fast forward to a couple weeks

623
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:34,799
ago

624
00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:37,760
i'm watching a presentation by hal put

625
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:39,039
off

626
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:42,000
and i sent you both the slides and

627
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:43,120
there's the slide

628
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:46,720
showing that atip looked into

629
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:50,399
this case wow

630
00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:54,080
um what slide

631
00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:57,279
is that one oh historical cases yes

632
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:01,120
okay wow

633
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:04,720
that is pretty crazy

634
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:07,519
right so a thousand pages of documents

635
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:08,960
logs sketches and maps

636
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:13,440
500 photographs 15 hours

637
00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:16,960
now now in in

638
00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:20,000
i think it was 2 000

639
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:24,799
let's see let me look at something here

640
00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:29,200
okay so in 2005 there's a well-known

641
00:33:33,509 --> 00:33:31,760
ufologist over there his name is aj

642
00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:33,519
gavard

643
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:36,240
he petitioned the government to release

644
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:37,600
the documents

645
00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:41,039
he wanted full disclosure on the on the

646
00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:42,399
case

647
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:45,840
and i think they had 36

648
00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:48,720
000 citizens signed this petition to get

649
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:50,799
this stuff released

650
00:33:56,549 --> 00:33:54,240
so what they did was they released

651
00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:56,559
some of the photographs some of the

652
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:58,000
documents

653
00:34:01,029 --> 00:34:00,320
and then some a little bit was leaked

654
00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:01,039
later

655
00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:03,039
but no one's ever seen the motion

656
00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:04,960
pictures

657
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:08,560
so here's another bizarre little

658
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:11,200
offshoot of that

659
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:14,240
in 2009

660
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:18,079
robert bigelow sent a team over there

661
00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:20,000
and i sent you the slide with the team

662
00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:22,639
that arrived over there

663
00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:26,480
they believed that but bigelow was

664
00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:29,919
given some of this footage and he's seen

665
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:30,560
it

666
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:44,560
this very well

667
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:46,639
that they made a trip over there they

668
00:34:54,629 --> 00:34:52,790
i'm not really sure why that guy's face

669
00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:54,639
is blurred out but there must be some

670
00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:55,679
reason

671
00:35:01,349 --> 00:34:59,119
yeah um so

672
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:01,359
yeah there must be you know so that's

673
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:02,800
the reason why

674
00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:05,520
when i saw put off's presentation and i

675
00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:06,079
realized

676
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:09,359
atip was looking into this case

677
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:11,680
i was like holy cow you know this is

678
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:14,079
like this is crazy i

679
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:16,000
i figured they were ignoring all the

680
00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:18,720
historical cases but apparently not

681
00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:21,520
so i'm gonna be i'm gonna tell you

682
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:24,400
honestly what spurred this on

683
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:27,280
um for me to go back into this case was

684
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:29,440
all the talk of

685
00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:31,760
the space brothers and they're here to

686
00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:33,680
help us

687
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:37,040
and i realized that this case is

688
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:40,400
kind of an anomaly in ufology

689
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:45,359
seems that way but in 2002

690
00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:49,040
it happened again in india and for a two

691
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:50,560
week period

692
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:53,760
the people were being burned and a few

693
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:57,359
died and the same exact thing

694
00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:59,839
happened and there's articles out there

695
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:01,359
about it but there's not much

696
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:09,829
interesting about that interesting i i i

697
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:10,720
don't doubt it

698
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:14,400
i believe um so

699
00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:17,680
if you look at um

700
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:20,000
look at the second slide that i sent you

701
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:22,400
from put off's

702
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:26,560
uh his presentation

703
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:29,040
you get it i'm gonna need like an

704
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:30,320
assistant soon to

705
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:36,550
all right is that the all right i got

706
00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:40,480
you it should say project kolaris

707
00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:44,240
so um this is documenting

708
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:47,920
all of the injuries of 37 victims

709
00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:51,200
this is from hal put off's presentation

710
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:58,390
i believe it's near the bottom somewhere

711
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:01,359
i think it's eight percent

712
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:05,040
or deaths now three

713
00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:08,320
died mark depression nervous

714
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:12,000
wow right his breakdown oh my gosh

715
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:14,480
so they were looking deep into it and

716
00:37:17,829 --> 00:37:16,400
they've got records that no one has

717
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:17,839
because

718
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:20,960
there's only three i believe documented

719
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:22,320
deaths

720
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,920
but there's a bunch of other ones that

721
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:25,680
are spoken about

722
00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:27,760
that other people had died but they

723
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:31,040
didn't document it very well

724
00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:34,400
so it looks like atip was looking real

725
00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:36,000
close at this stuff and they

726
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:39,040
created that graph themselves

727
00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:41,839
this one right here yep wow how do you

728
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:42,160
know

729
00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:44,800
is that what he said well that that came

730
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:46,240
from his presentation

731
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:48,560
so i'm assuming that they put it

732
00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:50,560
together because

733
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:53,359
there's no other nothing else that i can

734
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:55,359
find that gives a rundown of the

735
00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:56,720
injuries like that

736
00:38:00,710 --> 00:38:00,079
yeah so they must have documents that

737
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:00,720
are not

738
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:04,160
available to the public

739
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:07,520
so anyway um let's see here we go

740
00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:10,800
right here um did they have any sorry

741
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:11,359
did they have

742
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:14,400
any any inkling of

743
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:17,839
intent or anything

744
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:20,960
when when the when this colonel

745
00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:24,480
was being held by this being

746
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:26,800
he was whispered in his ear in

747
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:28,400
portuguese

748
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:31,440
calm down we're not here to hurt you

749
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:34,720
really you know

750
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:37,440
i i'm not sure if the intent was to hurt

751
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:38,560
people or not

752
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:40,480
i'm always along the lines that the

753
00:38:44,829 --> 00:38:41,599
phenomena is

754
00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:44,839
indifferent to us it's in the middle

755
00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:49,119
now you could speculate that

756
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:51,359
there's different parts of the phenomena

757
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:53,200
that are interacting with us some of

758
00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:54,480
them are not good

759
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:57,839
some of them are good and we can't

760
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:00,240
you know split them apart because we're

761
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:02,960
so confused by the phenomena as it is

762
00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:06,880
right so you know it's always possible

763
00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:09,440
um but there's a lot of little things

764
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:11,280
throughout the literature

765
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:13,680
where people have been hurt been killed

766
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:16,000
been they've disappeared

767
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:18,079
and then you've got the opposite where

768
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:20,560
people have been healed

769
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:22,640
there's been injuries uh people who've

770
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:24,000
had cancer

771
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:25,760
and they've been healed of the cancer

772
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:28,000
and the doctor couldn't explain it

773
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:31,359
after they were abducted so yes

774
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:34,240
preston dennett has written a bunch of

775
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:34,640
uh

776
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:36,960
books where he's covered a lot of those

777
00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:37,920
cases

778
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:42,320
very strange very strange stuff um

779
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:45,280
like it wasn't too long ago when i was

780
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:46,560
just

781
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:49,920
uh wondering about the question and

782
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:52,400
uh tried asking folks like is the

783
00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:53,280
phenomenon

784
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:56,560
ever does it seem like it ever made

785
00:40:03,349 --> 00:39:58,800
a problem that didn't exist and then

786
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:06,870
well the strange thing is is that um

787
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:10,880
during some cases where people were

788
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:13,200
i can't remember exactly where it was

789
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,920
there were

790
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:16,000
it might even been wrapped up in this

791
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:17,520
case where

792
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:21,280
people were injured on one hand but then

793
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:24,400
they were healed of something else

794
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:29,119
um in this book this ufo danger zone

795
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:31,040
there are there are photographs in here

796
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:33,280
of people who are in a catatonic state

797
00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:34,800
and they stayed that way

798
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:37,839
after the encounter some of them for

799
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:38,880
years

800
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:42,319
they never recovered um

801
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:45,760
it's just bizarre it's so confusing

802
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:48,640
you know it is isn't it um what are you

803
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:50,240
supposed to take from that or do

804
00:40:56,069 --> 00:40:53,680
even right and so you know i always

805
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:56,079
suggest to people that

806
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:58,960
if it was me and i saw something say i'm

807
00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:00,480
in the middle of the forest and

808
00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:02,560
something came down and it was like i

809
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,599
couldn't understand what it was

810
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:07,680
i wouldn't be running up to it that's

811
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:08,960
for sure

812
00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:11,359
i would stand back and try to document

813
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:13,760
it but i mean i'm not getting close

814
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:16,960
you know i'm not gonna take

815
00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:19,200
you know that whole they're here to help

816
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:21,200
me or they're here to hurt me

817
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:24,480
i have no i don't know right right so

818
00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:28,560
i'm just i'm just standing back

819
00:41:34,390 --> 00:41:32,000
so almost imagine if there's you know

820
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:34,400
if there's good there's bad you know but

821
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:35,920
that's kind of like

822
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:39,280
you know the way we think but

823
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:41,839
maybe that goes further than just this

824
00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:42,319
earth

825
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:44,079
yeah yeah there's a lot of researchers

826
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:46,240
that feel that way that

827
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:49,599
there could be elements of the phenomena

828
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:51,599
that are good and bad just like

829
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:54,960
elements of human society so

830
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:58,720
it's always possible um years later they

831
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:00,880
tried to say that it was a government

832
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:03,440
experiment they were going in there

833
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:05,200
yeah and they were doing this stuff and

834
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:07,359
it's just it doesn't even make sense

835
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:08,880
because

836
00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:12,640
some of the objects flew well

837
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:16,960
you moved around in ways that we're just

838
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,240
like nothing that we have right so now

839
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:22,560
he's a descriptor of these things

840
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:25,040
yeah i i'm just not buying it i'm not

841
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:25,839
buying it

842
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:30,720
so um let's see um although their

843
00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:32,240
presence in the region would

844
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:35,520
end in january the brazilian air force

845
00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:37,760
the investigation would last a further

846
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:38,560
four months

847
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:41,599
until may of 1978 and

848
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:43,599
even then it would carry on a private

849
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:45,200
capacity

850
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:47,599
incidentally the brazilian military

851
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:50,160
would make their findings classified

852
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:52,800
it wasn't until 2005 through the freedom

853
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:53,760
of information

854
00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:56,160
requests that the full documents were

855
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:58,160
released to the public

856
00:43:02,069 --> 00:43:00,400
but that's inaccurate it wasn't full

857
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:02,079
documents

858
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:06,400
um among details suppressed

859
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:08,800
was that many victims did suffer severe

860
00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:09,599
burns

861
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:11,359
and there were at least two to three

862
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:15,839
deaths this figure remains hotly debated

863
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:18,880
um yeah i'd say it says 80 percent here

864
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:20,960
it was it was the colonel's view that

865
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:23,920
the ufos were taking blood samples

866
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:27,599
um so you know jacques has

867
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:30,400
uh made a really good point i was

868
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:32,720
listening to

869
00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:36,480
some weird um like interview of his

870
00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:39,040
on a trinity broadcast and it was in

871
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:40,640
apple podcasts

872
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:42,240
and that's the only thing i could find

873
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:44,880
in there yeah it was like a trinity

874
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:46,720
radio broadcast it was great yeah you

875
00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:48,240
supported it right didn't you

876
00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:52,000
quote it yeah yeah yeah so it was yeah

877
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:55,200
he basically was saying

878
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:56,800
about abductions and everything but he

879
00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:58,960
was saying if if they're here to like

880
00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:00,000
take our blood

881
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:02,160
and take samples man they're really bad

882
00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:03,839
at it

883
00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:07,040
because he's like you know we could

884
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:08,640
we could do that way better more

885
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:10,560
efficient all right well

886
00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:14,319
there's interest interestingly

887
00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:17,119
jack valley wrote the four word of this

888
00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:18,160
book

889
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:21,359
wow listen to this one paragraph that he

890
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:22,560
wrote

891
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:25,440
if there's one weakness in this account

892
00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:27,200
it comes from the difficulty

893
00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:30,400
in conveying the awesome the massive

894
00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:31,520
reality of the

895
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:34,880
impact caused by the ufo phenomena

896
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:37,040
all over the magnificent island of

897
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:38,400
brazil

898
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:40,560
one has to stand on the banks of the

899
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:41,680
amazon at

900
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:45,040
dusk to grasp the enormity of the

901
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:46,960
mystery that surrounds us

902
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:49,359
and the opportunity it offers for new

903
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:50,880
knowledge

904
00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:53,839
the feeling is overwhelming it is almost

905
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:55,359
impossible to con

906
00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:58,880
convey in a book we must be satisfied

907
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:00,319
with glimpses

908
00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:04,160
of the other reality which teases us

909
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:06,800
plays with us and occasionally as this

910
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:09,520
book demonstrates so dramatically

911
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:12,400
hurts any human being who comes into

912
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:13,839
contact with it

913
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:17,200
as if it was entirely indifferent to our

914
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:17,599
fate

915
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:21,520
on this planet so

916
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:24,400
he he actually went down there and he

917
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:26,400
interviewed a bunch of people as well he

918
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:28,640
spent some time down there

919
00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:31,440
and the whole case is just it is one of

920
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:31,760
the

921
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:34,800
craziest yeah watch those videos you

922
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,119
sent

923
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:37,920
it and then yeah that kind of shook

924
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:39,680
shook me to be honest with you

925
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:42,880
it's some spooky stuff some freaky stuff

926
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:46,560
and uh you know i i guess i gotta look

927
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:47,760
at it this way too

928
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:52,240
that um just the people who

929
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:55,040
claim that they're abducted you know

930
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:56,319
some of those people

931
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:58,720
ended up really traumatized by that

932
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:00,240
whole situation

933
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,960
right whereas others are like you know

934
00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:04,400
oh you know i felt

935
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:08,079
love coming from it i wasn't afraid

936
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:11,440
you know so i i think it affects people

937
00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:13,040
in different ways

938
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:16,079
of course you could put the whole

939
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:19,280
thing of being shot with lasers kind of

940
00:46:26,829 --> 00:46:21,520
into a different category

941
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:26,839
yeah yeah the waking life violence

942
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:29,200
yeah you know so the whole thing

943
00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:32,079
is really bizarre and um what year that

944
00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:34,640
was 77 78 did you say

945
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:38,079
yep from 77 into 78. you know what's

946
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:41,760
funny about that is uh

947
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:44,000
like another quote from well i don't

948
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:45,760
remember the what the quote was but when

949
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:47,760
eric gary was trying to do this thing at

950
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:49,119
the u.n

951
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:50,720
trying to get all the countries at the

952
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:52,800
u.n to study the phenomenon together

953
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:56,000
eric carey from granada and

954
00:47:03,430 --> 00:46:59,520
jacquez vale was there too at this un

955
00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:03,440
meeting thing and he was the only one

956
00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:06,800
really that was because the the fight

957
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:08,240
he was trying this three years in a row

958
00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:10,880
in the final year he kind of changed

959
00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:13,680
uh the goal which what turned into more

960
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:14,160
of a

961
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:17,280
contact kind of thing for et's

962
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:20,400
and jacquez vale was there and he was

963
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:21,920
just concerned about it and he didn't

964
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:22,960
like it

965
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:25,520
right and it you know it's interesting

966
00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:26,400
because it

967
00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:30,400
was literally right around this case

968
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:33,920
yeah there's a if you watch the citizens

969
00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:35,680
hearings

970
00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:38,160
there's a there's a segment where aj

971
00:47:42,309 --> 00:47:39,520
gervard

972
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:42,319
gives his testimony and he talks about

973
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:43,839
brazil

974
00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:45,760
and he's like the most well-known you

975
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:47,599
follow just out there

976
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:51,119
so uh one of these guys that was

977
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:51,680
actually

978
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:54,880
burned by one of the objects he went on

979
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:56,400
to write a book called

980
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:00,079
um i think it's extraterrestrial

981
00:48:06,309 --> 00:48:03,760
vampires in the amazon i don't think

982
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:06,319
it's been translated um

983
00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:08,720
but it's he wrote that book and then

984
00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:10,480
there's copies of it out there but i

985
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:12,400
don't know if you can buy it anymore

986
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:15,359
but you know this guy went deep into it

987
00:48:18,309 --> 00:48:15,920
you know the

988
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:18,319
in the newspapers they were filled with

989
00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:19,520
these articles

990
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:22,160
for months and months it was going on

991
00:48:30,309 --> 00:48:28,069
and you know some of these people they

992
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:30,319
slept in if they were very poor

993
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:31,760
communities

994
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:34,000
they slept in kind of these kind of

995
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:36,160
rickety huts

996
00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:39,359
and you know some of these beams came

997
00:48:42,710 --> 00:48:41,520
right through the ceiling you know right

998
00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:42,720
through the wall

999
00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:46,079
shot these people in their homes

1000
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:48,160
you know and it was just constant terror

1001
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:50,160
that went on and they finally

1002
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:52,400
you know it just pisses me off where is

1003
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:54,000
this video

1004
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:56,880
yeah in photos where is this stuff hours

1005
00:49:01,349 --> 00:48:57,920
of video

1006
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:01,359
they took and they took it with uh uh

1007
00:49:07,349 --> 00:49:04,240
super eight millimeter cameras so it's

1008
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:07,359
out there somewhere the brazilian people

1009
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:11,040
or the government they have copies of it

1010
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:12,640
they've been holding on to it all this

1011
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:16,000
time but i guess during the

1012
00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:17,440
you know when they were given all this

1013
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:19,119
stuff up in 2005

1014
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:21,520
because the the the meeting where the

1015
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:22,400
ufologists

1016
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:26,480
meet the military that footage is online

1017
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:29,280
that day it was all filmed they gave

1018
00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:30,720
them over documents

1019
00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:37,270
so it's still classified for some weird

1020
00:49:41,589 --> 00:49:39,440
reason

1021
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:41,599
must be something really intense on

1022
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,720
those films

1023
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:44,400
yeah they they need to release that

1024
00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:47,599
stuff to the public that's ridiculous

1025
00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:50,079
maybe they don't have it anymore maybe

1026
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:51,359
somebody else does

1027
00:49:56,829 --> 00:49:54,559
yeah well like uh

1028
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:56,839
your listeners said you know you never

1029
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:58,960
know piccolo might have plopped down a

1030
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:00,400
lump of cash and they went

1031
00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:02,720
yeah this will buy a few more jet

1032
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:03,680
fighters

1033
00:50:08,950 --> 00:50:06,720
yeah you know yeah what that's uh

1034
00:50:10,390 --> 00:50:08,960
you just that's the frustrating part of

1035
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:10,400
this it's like

1036
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:13,839
we have all this all these cases with

1037
00:50:16,950 --> 00:50:14,640
all this

1038
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:16,960
evidence that matches up to so many

1039
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:19,200
different cases

1040
00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:22,319
and it's like i just hate how the

1041
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:23,760
government kind of acts that we're

1042
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:25,680
ignorant to that fact

1043
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:30,000
you know like we know

1044
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:31,359
because we're not stupid we've

1045
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,359
researched it we've looked at documents

1046
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:35,520
from the 40s 50s

1047
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:38,640
60s 70s 80s and 90s you know

1048
00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:41,520
right the same descriptors 90 degree

1049
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:42,960
turns dead stop

1050
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:46,480
you know amber glowing uh all different

1051
00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:47,760
stuff

1052
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:50,319
it's always been there it's always been

1053
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:51,040
there

1054
00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:52,640
yeah i just don't get why they act like

1055
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:55,119
we're so stupid

1056
00:51:01,589 --> 00:50:58,160
i i think part of it too now

1057
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:01,599
with so many generations have gone by

1058
00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:04,559
yeah since this kind of people begin to

1059
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:06,880
take notice of it

1060
00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:08,880
that there's really no stopping it now

1061
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:11,359
because there's so many generations of

1062
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:12,640
witnesses

1063
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:14,640
you know even leaving out the people

1064
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:16,400
that are researchers but the people that

1065
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:16,720
have

1066
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:19,760
seen it and been affected by it

1067
00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:22,480
there's so many of them now that it's

1068
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:23,520
just

1069
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:26,319
they're they're never gonna erase it now

1070
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:27,440
yeah

1071
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:30,800
you know well i just hope bo

1072
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:32,960
what's your feeling on like disclosure

1073
00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:35,280
do you think this is all

1074
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:37,920
uh orchestrated and is gonna happen or

1075
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:38,400
do you

1076
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:41,760
this stuff happens

1077
00:51:48,829 --> 00:51:45,760
you know where it seem

1078
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:48,839
it just seems like there's a lot of

1079
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:51,520
gusto and that it would eventually just

1080
00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:53,040
happen like it's gonna come to this

1081
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:54,640
tipping point but

1082
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:57,599
have you noticed something relative to

1083
00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:00,160
what we're experiencing now in the past

1084
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:03,599
where it seemed like it was gonna go

1085
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:05,760
and be disclosed but then it just kind

1086
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:08,240
of faded away

1087
00:52:14,950 --> 00:52:11,680
you know you know multiple times

1088
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:14,960
i think it's uh it's

1089
00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:17,280
30 something years for me now when i

1090
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:19,520
first started doing this

1091
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:22,960
there's been times where there's been

1092
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:26,160
tons of talk about disclosure and

1093
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:28,480
it comes up it kind of bubbles to the

1094
00:52:31,270 --> 00:52:30,480
surface and ufology and people are like

1095
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:31,280
yup

1096
00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:35,200
it's gonna happen you know um

1097
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:36,559
there was people talking about it

1098
00:52:41,589 --> 00:52:38,640
everywhere when when greer was talking

1099
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:41,599
about i think in 93

1100
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:43,520
there was even talk about it even way

1101
00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:45,680
before that as well

1102
00:52:50,230 --> 00:52:48,480
and you know we've all gotten our hopes

1103
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:50,240
up like oh my god this is going to

1104
00:52:53,349 --> 00:52:51,520
happen they're going to come out they're

1105
00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:53,359
going to tell us

1106
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:57,040
and you know i want to be optimistic

1107
00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:58,079
about it i mean

1108
00:53:01,829 --> 00:53:00,800
like i told you on the last show i i

1109
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:01,839
want some answers

1110
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:03,440
i mean i've been looking at this for a

1111
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:05,200
long time yeah

1112
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:09,440
and um i i don't know how we could

1113
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:12,079
escape this situation without some sort

1114
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:13,440
of answer

1115
00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:17,680
you know just because of

1116
00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:19,680
all the different characters that are

1117
00:53:26,829 --> 00:53:23,599
involved that are definitely pushing

1118
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:26,839
you know some sort of disclosure kind of

1119
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:28,960
narrative and going

1120
00:53:32,950 --> 00:53:30,960
pretty balls to the walls with it so if

1121
00:53:36,069 --> 00:53:32,960
it doesn't

1122
00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:36,079
really happen there's going to be a lot

1123
00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:36,880
of people that have

1124
00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:44,150
yeah you got that right you know i mean

1125
00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:46,160
here's the thing for me too

1126
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:51,599
over the years there are multiple cases

1127
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:53,760
where they've confiscated

1128
00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:56,960
photos and eight-millimeter film

1129
00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:58,960
and told people we're going to take a

1130
00:54:01,430 --> 00:54:00,800
look at it we'll get it back to you and

1131
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:01,440
then it

1132
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:06,480
appears so if a civilian

1133
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:09,280
gathered that evidence on their own how

1134
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:11,280
the hell is it classified

1135
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:14,720
right you took it from someone so it

1136
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:16,079
can't be classified

1137
00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:19,680
you classified it so that stuff

1138
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:22,319
needs to be given back to the public

1139
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:24,160
that's ours that's true

1140
00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:27,599
well my main point with that is

1141
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:29,680
if we could get some people out there

1142
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:32,000
with like really good equipment

1143
00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:34,960
all around the country uh christopher

1144
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:37,599
o'brien who's written extensively on the

1145
00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:39,359
the cattle mutilations

1146
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:43,200
uh out in the san luis valley

1147
00:54:50,789 --> 00:54:46,720
um he i believe he is they have set up

1148
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:50,799
a set of cameras throughout that area

1149
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:52,880
and they're trying to capture capture

1150
00:54:57,750 --> 00:54:54,319
stuff on video

1151
00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:57,760
um like i said i think

1152
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:00,880
we're gonna make our own disclosure yeah

1153
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:03,119
instead of waiting for them we need to

1154
00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:05,280
make our own disclosure we need to

1155
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:07,520
just get some people out there get some

1156
00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:08,720
eyes on the skies

1157
00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:11,280
everywhere cameras you know but it's the

1158
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:13,359
people who

1159
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:15,839
want to take the time to do that because

1160
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:17,359
a lot of people won't do it you know

1161
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:18,079
they're just

1162
00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:19,680
i don't want to be bothered with that

1163
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:22,319
you know so

1164
00:55:28,789 --> 00:55:25,760
just like yeah other causes or whatever

1165
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:28,799
yeah but this one i i argue is is better

1166
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:30,400
than most because it

1167
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:34,240
ideally brings people together versus uh

1168
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:35,920
stripping them apart although there are

1169
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:38,160
conflicts within this community too

1170
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:41,839
but yeah a little bit yeah um

1171
00:55:46,549 --> 00:55:45,760
yeah i think um you know it will get to

1172
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:46,559
a point where

1173
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:49,440
that is going to happen so you know the

1174
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:50,319
air force or

1175
00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:53,359
whoever it may be is going to have to

1176
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:55,839
we're going to want to say something so

1177
00:56:01,589 --> 00:55:58,319
they can have some control over

1178
00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:01,599
you know a narrative or whatever is

1179
00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:03,680
supposed to be done with this stuff you

1180
00:56:06,069 --> 00:56:04,720
know right

1181
00:56:07,910 --> 00:56:06,079
like they're gonna come out with like

1182
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:07,920
don't touch it or you know whatever it

1183
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:09,680
is

1184
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:12,160
don't come within 30 feet don't touch it

1185
00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:12,720
yeah

1186
00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:15,760
it'll get to a point you know where

1187
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:18,880
i mean i was just um a co-hosting on

1188
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:20,319
this show with uh max

1189
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:22,640
and vinnie yesterday where they just

1190
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:24,799
cover european cases

1191
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:27,920
and this is an example of

1192
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:30,400
what i think will keep happening too uh

1193
00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:31,680
we had two commerci

1194
00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:34,559
commercial airline pilots on telling

1195
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:36,400
their story of what they saw for the

1196
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:37,680
first time

1197
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:40,400
uh and one of them works for the largest

1198
00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:42,319
dutch airliner

1199
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:45,359
in that country he wouldn't say what it

1200
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:46,960
was called but he goes but you'll figure

1201
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:49,200
it out

1202
00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:51,520
but it you know and it's interesting

1203
00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:53,520
because to come back to what you said

1204
00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:56,319
he even saw that and was excited and in

1205
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:57,280
the moment and thought it was

1206
00:57:01,349 --> 00:56:58,079
spectacular

1207
00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:01,359
but um afterwards he was

1208
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:04,160
very just like it is what it is move on

1209
00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:04,640
you know

1210
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:07,599
i don't care and so it's just

1211
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:08,640
interesting how

1212
00:57:12,230 --> 00:57:11,680
different people react so dramatically

1213
00:57:15,910 --> 00:57:12,240
different

1214
00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:15,920
to this situation in particular

1215
00:57:21,829 --> 00:57:19,200
right well it's kind of like uh another

1216
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:21,839
good example would be alex dietrich

1217
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:24,400
yeah she's kind of like kind of

1218
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:26,640
indifferent to the whole thing you know

1219
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:29,280
i saw something i can't explain but i'm

1220
00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:31,680
not really a ufo person

1221
00:57:36,630 --> 00:57:34,799
you know what i mean so well

1222
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:36,640
some people they just get deeply

1223
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:38,000
interested in it and

1224
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:41,760
others don't to me i think it's one of

1225
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:42,240
the most

1226
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:45,119
important things to mankind that that

1227
00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:46,960
there's something else out there

1228
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:49,359
right other people they just don't feel

1229
00:57:52,789 --> 00:57:50,960
that way they're like oh you know i'm

1230
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:52,799
not worried about that i gotta go pay my

1231
00:57:57,349 --> 00:57:54,000
bills and get my car

1232
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:57,359
fixed yeah you know you know it's

1233
00:58:01,270 --> 00:57:59,839
just when you get stuck in that cycle of

1234
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:01,280
paying those bills and

1235
00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:04,640
those routines it's it's so hard to

1236
00:58:08,230 --> 00:58:07,280
get out of it and know anything else you

1237
00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:08,240
know

1238
00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:11,280
because it's just like it becomes just

1239
00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:13,359
the part of your nature is to wake up

1240
00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:15,920
and go to work and do your thing and

1241
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:17,680
stare at the clock for the last hour of

1242
00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:19,520
your shift and

1243
00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:24,079
get out and go to bed and do it again

1244
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:26,240
but it doesn't have to be that way you

1245
00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:27,520
know it really

1246
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:31,040
it it doesn't um you can chase

1247
00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:33,760
you know your passions as well as you

1248
00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:34,400
know work

1249
00:58:37,589 --> 00:58:37,200
and still keep life interesting right

1250
00:58:41,589 --> 00:58:37,599
but

1251
00:58:45,430 --> 00:58:41,599
um i i hope i hope people see

1252
00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:45,440
the the value in the worth in

1253
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:48,000
um the potential of all this because

1254
00:58:52,870 --> 00:58:49,280
it's

1255
00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:52,880
seemingly sky's the limit

1256
00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:55,280
you know with the technology and what

1257
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:56,319
that means for

1258
00:59:02,710 --> 00:59:00,799
humanity in our our own space travels

1259
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:02,720
i think you're right it is potentially

1260
00:59:07,510 --> 00:59:04,480
the biggest

1261
00:59:10,870 --> 00:59:07,520
mankind

1262
00:59:13,829 --> 00:59:10,880
yeah i mean you know

1263
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:13,839
if if we get some sort of disclosure

1264
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:15,839
over the next few years you know

1265
00:59:21,670 --> 00:59:19,280
i mean it doesn't have to be everything

1266
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:21,680
but at least give us something you know

1267
00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:23,200
throw me a biscuit

1268
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:26,480
yeah let me see you know a

1269
00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:28,640
photo or footage that was taken from the

1270
00:59:33,430 --> 00:59:30,240
cockpit of a jet that is

1271
00:59:35,670 --> 00:59:33,440
crystal clear that shows this object

1272
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:35,680
and i know and they've got that stuff

1273
00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:36,720
they totally do

1274
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:38,799
you have it i mean i was just talking

1275
00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:39,760
about the nro

1276
00:59:46,230 --> 00:59:42,880
earlier who uh met

1277
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:46,240
national reconnaissance office

1278
00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:49,520
they seemingly worked

1279
00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:52,319
um invisibly for about 37 years and they

1280
00:59:57,430 --> 00:59:54,480
were unclassified in like the 70s

1281
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:57,440
they get most of their budget from

1282
01:00:01,589 --> 00:59:58,240
leftover

1283
01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:01,599
funds they take them all and um

1284
01:00:05,349 --> 01:00:03,200
they are in charge of like the

1285
01:00:06,789 --> 01:00:05,359
satellites that the reconnaissance

1286
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:06,799
satellites

1287
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:09,760
um yep and there's about over 4 000 of

1288
01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:11,680
those in the sky now

1289
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:14,319
and they actually worked on you know

1290
01:00:17,829 --> 01:00:15,040
upgrading

1291
01:00:18,789 --> 01:00:17,839
the uh camera and photo capabilities on

1292
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:18,799
these satellites

1293
01:00:22,549 --> 01:00:20,400
you know a couple decades ago or

1294
01:00:23,109 --> 01:00:22,559
whatever but they are heavily involved

1295
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:23,119
in that

1296
01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:28,559
and i am sure that they have something

1297
01:00:32,549 --> 01:00:30,880
no doubt about them and they just hire

1298
01:00:39,829 --> 01:00:32,559
all contractors

1299
01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:39,839
yeah i mean there's there's

1300
01:00:44,150 --> 01:00:43,119
i think i think what is going what is

1301
01:00:47,829 --> 01:00:44,160
going to

1302
01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:47,839
spur on a ton of leaks

1303
01:00:52,630 --> 01:00:51,119
over the next couple years is what's

1304
01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:52,640
going on now

1305
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:54,240
yeah and there's going to be people

1306
01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:56,000
coming out of the closet and leaking

1307
01:01:00,390 --> 01:00:58,160
different things and of course we're

1308
01:01:03,589 --> 01:01:00,400
going to have to be very very

1309
01:01:06,549 --> 01:01:03,599
careful skeptical of that stuff and

1310
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:06,559
really really look at its provenance and

1311
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:08,880
where it came from

1312
01:01:13,030 --> 01:01:10,960
but i mean i i think that there's going

1313
01:01:14,789 --> 01:01:13,040
to be a lot of leaks over the next few

1314
01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:14,799
years and

1315
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:16,880
i mean who knows what we'll see you're

1316
01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:18,880
right though to touch on that or we have

1317
01:01:22,630 --> 01:01:20,079
to be careful and

1318
01:01:23,510 --> 01:01:22,640
you know um not accept everything that's

1319
01:01:26,230 --> 01:01:23,520
thrown at us

1320
01:01:26,789 --> 01:01:26,240
i mean and looking through old documents

1321
01:01:29,510 --> 01:01:26,799
it's

1322
01:01:31,349 --> 01:01:29,520
you know they do that on purpose yeah

1323
01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:31,359
misinformation and

1324
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:34,240
and uh putting people in the community

1325
01:01:38,470 --> 01:01:35,359
making movies

1326
01:01:40,870 --> 01:01:38,480
or tv shows that that spit

1327
01:01:42,549 --> 01:01:40,880
the the government's agenda out of it

1328
01:01:49,750 --> 01:01:42,559
you know

1329
01:01:51,349 --> 01:01:49,760
there's no reason

1330
01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:51,359
that they would change their ways or

1331
01:01:55,750 --> 01:01:53,040
whatever have you ever seen

1332
01:01:57,589 --> 01:01:55,760
um have you ever seen the documentary

1333
01:02:00,789 --> 01:01:57,599
mirage men

1334
01:02:02,470 --> 01:02:00,799
uh i'm really

1335
01:02:04,069 --> 01:02:02,480
i don't know what to feel about that

1336
01:02:07,349 --> 01:02:04,079
because i'm either gonna go

1337
01:02:10,069 --> 01:02:07,359
all in on majestic 12 or just skip it

1338
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:10,079
and i'm not sure what to do well the

1339
01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:12,000
only reason i mentioned it is because of

1340
01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:14,079
dodie and you know about rick kelly

1341
01:02:18,710 --> 01:02:15,119
right

1342
01:02:21,910 --> 01:02:18,720
so he was a paid trained

1343
01:02:25,589 --> 01:02:21,920
person to do what he was doing

1344
01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:25,599
and we know that he he's already spoken

1345
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:26,160
about it

1346
01:02:33,029 --> 01:02:29,760
he's you know so

1347
01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:33,039
how many of him are there yeah how many

1348
01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:33,599
of him

1349
01:02:39,670 --> 01:02:36,880
are embedded in our communities

1350
01:02:40,309 --> 01:02:39,680
and our groups and what we do right you

1351
01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:40,319
know

1352
01:02:46,870 --> 01:02:43,440
we have no idea yeah

1353
01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:46,880
we really don't because well

1354
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:51,200
no one's at least as out there as he is

1355
01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:53,119
you know with how open he is talking

1356
01:02:57,910 --> 01:02:54,960
about it and everything

1357
01:02:59,270 --> 01:02:57,920
do what year was that the dotty thing do

1358
01:03:03,190 --> 01:02:59,280
you know

1359
01:03:06,630 --> 01:03:03,200
uh 80s i think it was the early 80s

1360
01:03:09,910 --> 01:03:06,640
yeah and he worked out of kirkland

1361
01:03:13,430 --> 01:03:09,920
air force base was it um

1362
01:03:15,349 --> 01:03:13,440
i thought i think so i think so

1363
01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:15,359
yeah because the university of colorado

1364
01:03:19,589 --> 01:03:16,799
took over uh

1365
01:03:20,789 --> 01:03:19,599
investigating the phenomenon in about

1366
01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:20,799
around that time

1367
01:03:27,589 --> 01:03:24,960
or no late 60s so

1368
01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:27,599
yeah and they destroyed bennowitz's life

1369
01:03:32,069 --> 01:03:28,799
yeah

1370
01:03:36,950 --> 01:03:32,079
the university didn't dodie

1371
01:03:38,789 --> 01:03:36,960
oh dodie they destroyed benowitz

1372
01:03:40,069 --> 01:03:38,799
because he knew things were going on and

1373
01:03:44,069 --> 01:03:40,079
they kept feeding him

1374
01:03:46,390 --> 01:03:44,079
fake information and he just lost it the

1375
01:03:49,589 --> 01:03:46,400
guy went off the deep end

1376
01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:49,599
yeah you know you can definitely sense

1377
01:03:54,470 --> 01:03:50,799
that there's different

1378
01:03:58,069 --> 01:03:54,480
sides to this thing right yes

1379
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:58,079
you got grier elizondo and even some

1380
01:04:02,150 --> 01:03:58,799
people that

1381
01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:02,160
don't really obviously seem

1382
01:04:07,349 --> 01:04:03,920
that they're on separate sides i just

1383
01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:07,359
get the feeling that they're

1384
01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:08,960
that they have different agendas and

1385
01:04:14,150 --> 01:04:10,400
play nice on purpose

1386
01:04:18,630 --> 01:04:16,069
but just there's a lot of people i mean

1387
01:04:21,029 --> 01:04:18,640
like you take greer for example

1388
01:04:22,549 --> 01:04:21,039
he wants to steer people in a certain

1389
01:04:25,670 --> 01:04:22,559
direction

1390
01:04:27,910 --> 01:04:25,680
so if you listen to him in any of the

1391
01:04:31,589 --> 01:04:27,920
talks he gives

1392
01:04:33,750 --> 01:04:31,599
he talks about how he knows their names

1393
01:04:36,150 --> 01:04:33,760
he knows where they come from

1394
01:04:36,870 --> 01:04:36,160
he knows how they power their ships

1395
01:04:39,349 --> 01:04:36,880
right

1396
01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:39,359
and as soon as someone says these things

1397
01:04:43,990 --> 01:04:40,480
to me

1398
01:04:46,069 --> 01:04:44,000
i'm backing away right because he has no

1399
01:04:48,710 --> 01:04:46,079
idea what he's talking about

1400
01:04:49,829 --> 01:04:48,720
i don't think it it may come down to

1401
01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:49,839
where

1402
01:04:53,829 --> 01:04:51,119
some of the highest people in the

1403
01:04:54,630 --> 01:04:53,839
government don't even know those things

1404
01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:54,640
right

1405
01:04:58,710 --> 01:04:57,440
and he's built this kind of mythology

1406
01:05:01,029 --> 01:04:58,720
around it

1407
01:05:02,150 --> 01:05:01,039
i mean he's given them names i think one

1408
01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:02,160
is called

1409
01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:09,750
i'll be you you know

1410
01:05:13,750 --> 01:05:12,000
and uh you know he's built this whole

1411
01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:13,760
mythology around it and it's

1412
01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:17,200
really bizarre it's kind of it's it's

1413
01:05:23,910 --> 01:05:20,319
kind of culty to me yeah

1414
01:05:27,510 --> 01:05:23,920
uh yeah it definitely is most definitely

1415
01:05:29,190 --> 01:05:27,520
um and how do you you know he explains

1416
01:05:32,230 --> 01:05:29,200
what he does in his own movie

1417
01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:32,240
you give some bit of truth

1418
01:05:39,430 --> 01:05:35,760
to keep it relevant and then the rest

1419
01:05:43,190 --> 01:05:41,430
whatever cardboard you want to stand up

1420
01:05:47,349 --> 01:05:43,200
around

1421
01:05:49,990 --> 01:05:47,359
yeah yeah you know do you has

1422
01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:50,000
have you seen his influence grow or

1423
01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:50,880
diminish

1424
01:05:58,549 --> 01:05:54,960
or his is steady

1425
01:06:00,710 --> 01:05:58,559
his um he's beginning to get a really

1426
01:06:03,029 --> 01:06:00,720
bad reputation for himself in the last

1427
01:06:04,910 --> 01:06:03,039
few years especially like

1428
01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:04,920
you know calling lou elizondo a

1429
01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:06,640
disinformation agent

1430
01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:09,920
and you know things like that and uh

1431
01:06:15,349 --> 01:06:13,440
uh there's there's a there's somebody in

1432
01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:15,359
the community that i won't mention his

1433
01:06:18,069 --> 01:06:17,119
name because i'm not sure he wants to be

1434
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:18,079
attached to the whole

1435
01:06:22,230 --> 01:06:21,359
thing but yeah he became very close to

1436
01:06:24,549 --> 01:06:22,240
greer

1437
01:06:25,510 --> 01:06:24,559
he went out on a few expeditions with

1438
01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:25,520
him

1439
01:06:31,430 --> 01:06:28,880
uh got deep into the ce5

1440
01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:31,440
and he began to realize that greer was

1441
01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:33,920
very controlling

1442
01:06:37,270 --> 01:06:36,160
he burned a lot of bridges as he went

1443
01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:37,280
along

1444
01:06:41,270 --> 01:06:40,799
and so this guy bailed out started his

1445
01:06:44,470 --> 01:06:41,280
own

1446
01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:44,480
ce5 situation

1447
01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:46,720
and he doesn't really have anything to

1448
01:06:51,190 --> 01:06:48,160
do with him anymore

1449
01:06:51,589 --> 01:06:51,200
um but this is a common thing with greer

1450
01:06:58,549 --> 01:06:51,599
he

1451
01:07:01,750 --> 01:06:58,559
ufologists that

1452
01:07:03,109 --> 01:07:01,760
won't buy his story about how they're

1453
01:07:05,430 --> 01:07:03,119
here to help us

1454
01:07:07,430 --> 01:07:05,440
and they're here to give us free energy

1455
01:07:07,990 --> 01:07:07,440
and yeah then be like just freaking do

1456
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:08,000
it

1457
01:07:16,870 --> 01:07:14,160
you know and he started disclosure i

1458
01:07:21,349 --> 01:07:16,880
think 93.

1459
01:07:28,630 --> 01:07:25,589
man it's a long plan it's not working

1460
01:07:31,750 --> 01:07:28,640
you need to come up with something else

1461
01:07:33,190 --> 01:07:31,760
the old uh yeah the fake alien invasion

1462
01:07:37,349 --> 01:07:33,200
still hasn't happened i mean i'm

1463
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:38,870
and he keeps claiming it's going to

1464
01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:41,280
happen yeah

1465
01:07:44,549 --> 01:07:43,039
i just never got the point of that

1466
01:07:48,069 --> 01:07:44,559
theory um

1467
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:48,079
you know just never understood it

1468
01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:49,520
the people who say they know what's

1469
01:07:53,829 --> 01:07:51,839
going on like if they really did

1470
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:53,839
they would have the proof and everyone

1471
01:07:57,670 --> 01:07:55,680
else would know that that person knows

1472
01:08:00,069 --> 01:07:57,680
what's going on because what he has to

1473
01:08:03,029 --> 01:08:00,079
offer is just that definitive

1474
01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:03,039
right right yeah no and i don't put a

1475
01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:05,520
lot of faith in like

1476
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:07,920
false flag operations you know for

1477
01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:08,880
example

1478
01:08:14,470 --> 01:08:11,920
right you've got uh when

1479
01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:14,480
when the sandy hook school took place in

1480
01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:16,080
connecticut

1481
01:08:23,910 --> 01:08:20,880
and all those children were killed um

1482
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:23,920
alex jones went crazy and said that it

1483
01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:24,400
was

1484
01:08:29,590 --> 01:08:27,279
actors and they weren't real people now

1485
01:08:31,749 --> 01:08:29,600
i had a friend of mine that was a direct

1486
01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:31,759
friend of one of the families that lost

1487
01:08:36,149 --> 01:08:33,199
a child

1488
01:08:37,030 --> 01:08:36,159
my daughter was the same age as these

1489
01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:37,040
children so

1490
01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:39,359
i'm driving home from connecticut that

1491
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:40,239
day

1492
01:08:43,829 --> 01:08:43,199
it's on the radio and i just started

1493
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:43,839
falling

1494
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:47,759
i couldn't stop crying and

1495
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:51,040
when these people began to spout

1496
01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:53,839
this crap about these actors and it

1497
01:08:59,669 --> 01:08:56,480
didn't really happen

1498
01:09:01,749 --> 01:08:59,679
i must have lost 30 friends on facebook

1499
01:09:03,669 --> 01:09:01,759
and i deleted them and blocked them

1500
01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:03,679
because

1501
01:09:09,030 --> 01:09:07,199
you just it's just crazy how a small

1502
01:09:12,229 --> 01:09:09,040
group of people can make up this

1503
01:09:12,630 --> 01:09:12,239
fake crap and then it spreads within

1504
01:09:16,309 --> 01:09:12,640
this

1505
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:16,319
mass of people it's unbelievable

1506
01:09:22,470 --> 01:09:19,440
yeah in uh complete disregard for

1507
01:09:23,349 --> 01:09:22,480
humanity along the way in people's

1508
01:09:26,390 --> 01:09:23,359
feelings

1509
01:09:29,030 --> 01:09:26,400
and emotions you know exactly just

1510
01:09:30,229 --> 01:09:29,040
so they can get more views or whatever i

1511
01:09:32,149 --> 01:09:30,239
wish people just

1512
01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:32,159
realized that in the end those things

1513
01:09:36,709 --> 01:09:34,080
are hollow

1514
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:36,719
yeah and it's never gonna be enough and

1515
01:09:42,709 --> 01:09:37,600
some of the

1516
01:09:44,390 --> 01:09:42,719
against alex jones because he was

1517
01:09:45,990 --> 01:09:44,400
you know making uh he's just making

1518
01:09:48,550 --> 01:09:46,000
stuff up and that's

1519
01:09:49,189 --> 01:09:48,560
that's just uh going too far just cause

1520
01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:49,199
some things

1521
01:09:53,110 --> 01:09:51,359
aren't illegal doesn't mean you can do

1522
01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:53,120
them or should

1523
01:09:56,149 --> 01:09:55,840
you know that should be illegal and it's

1524
01:09:59,750 --> 01:09:56,159
like

1525
01:10:02,149 --> 01:09:59,760
every single shooting is some kind of

1526
01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:02,159
conspiracy and there's people behind it

1527
01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:03,280
and

1528
01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:05,360
you know it's just some crazy guy who

1529
01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:06,480
got a gun

1530
01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:08,800
you know i mean the media paints their

1531
01:10:12,149 --> 01:10:09,760
pictures to

1532
01:10:14,830 --> 01:10:12,159
produce the narratives their candidates

1533
01:10:18,870 --> 01:10:15,990
basically

1534
01:10:20,470 --> 01:10:18,880
whatever it is you know um shooting

1535
01:10:23,430 --> 01:10:20,480
anybody is terrible

1536
01:10:24,470 --> 01:10:23,440
they die that's terrible no matter who

1537
01:10:28,149 --> 01:10:24,480
it is

1538
01:10:29,590 --> 01:10:28,159
um that is bad but what happens what

1539
01:10:31,910 --> 01:10:29,600
i've noticed is

1540
01:10:32,870 --> 01:10:31,920
sometimes certain parts of shooting

1541
01:10:36,790 --> 01:10:32,880
videos are left

1542
01:10:38,229 --> 01:10:36,800
out until after all the crazy stuff

1543
01:10:41,830 --> 01:10:38,239
happens

1544
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:41,840
then so look what we found you know

1545
01:10:44,950 --> 01:10:44,080
and it's it's just people frame things

1546
01:10:48,470 --> 01:10:44,960
for political

1547
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:48,480
motives and power and they have

1548
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:51,440
no care at least in the media about us

1549
01:10:56,149 --> 01:10:53,040
they really don't

1550
01:10:59,750 --> 01:10:56,159
i'm i'm more convinced of that every day

1551
01:11:02,709 --> 01:10:59,760
i think i think a lot of um

1552
01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:02,719
a lot of conspiracies and false flag

1553
01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:05,199
things that

1554
01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:08,480
are propagated and then begin to grow

1555
01:11:12,630 --> 01:11:10,480
a lot of times that comes from people

1556
01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:12,640
who have some kind of paranoia

1557
01:11:15,830 --> 01:11:14,719
they're they're paranoid about the

1558
01:11:18,149 --> 01:11:15,840
government

1559
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:18,159
and they see things where other people

1560
01:11:21,669 --> 01:11:19,679
don't see that

1561
01:11:23,030 --> 01:11:21,679
and they're like well look at that

1562
01:11:25,669 --> 01:11:23,040
that's the same guy

1563
01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:25,679
that was five years ago was involved in

1564
01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:27,760
this look at their faces they look just

1565
01:11:30,390 --> 01:11:28,719
like each other

1566
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:30,400
and they don't look anything like each

1567
01:11:34,390 --> 01:11:31,920
other you know

1568
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:34,400
it's insane there's one short vet the

1569
01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:35,840
other's tall and skinny

1570
01:11:41,590 --> 01:11:39,600
yeah it's just the smaller opposites

1571
01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:41,600
he away he had a scar on his arm let's

1572
01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:43,520
check the arm

1573
01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:47,440
yeah show me his tattoo yeah oh man

1574
01:11:53,990 --> 01:11:50,960
yeah i know it it's very um

1575
01:11:56,709 --> 01:11:54,000
this topic one of the reasons i enjoy it

1576
01:11:57,910 --> 01:11:56,719
so much is it it really tests the limits

1577
01:12:01,030 --> 01:11:57,920
of your restraint

1578
01:12:02,709 --> 01:12:01,040
and your imagination because you there

1579
01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:02,719
are avenues for you to go

1580
01:12:06,390 --> 01:12:05,520
as far as you want many different ways

1581
01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:06,400
here

1582
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:10,000
you know um and it takes a lot of

1583
01:12:14,149 --> 01:12:10,800
strength

1584
01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:14,159
to to not be taken away by one of those

1585
01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:16,480
you know because in the end it kind of

1586
01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:17,360
say those

1587
01:12:23,030 --> 01:12:20,400
serve some the same purpose as

1588
01:12:24,149 --> 01:12:23,040
spirituality or church and you get a

1589
01:12:25,990 --> 01:12:24,159
rush of

1590
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:26,000
something amazing and great and you're

1591
01:12:30,550 --> 01:12:28,159
special and we're all part of this

1592
01:12:32,709 --> 01:12:30,560
you know it's a it's a faith spiritual

1593
01:12:35,750 --> 01:12:32,719
thing that you're feeling there

1594
01:12:36,070 --> 01:12:35,760
and so when you feel that it really gets

1595
01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:36,080
hard

1596
01:12:39,910 --> 01:12:38,640
to detach from that and and start

1597
01:12:43,270 --> 01:12:39,920
looking at reality

1598
01:12:45,910 --> 01:12:43,280
with clear glasses again right um so

1599
01:12:47,590 --> 01:12:45,920
i i really like um you know how you have

1600
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:47,600
to be strong and concentrated and

1601
01:12:52,229 --> 01:12:48,719
patient

1602
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:52,239
um because i'm not any of those

1603
01:12:56,149 --> 01:12:54,880
this will help you this will help me

1604
01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:56,159
develop that

1605
01:13:00,310 --> 01:12:59,040
i don't have a lot of patience me

1606
01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:00,320
neither

1607
01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:03,520
touch on

1608
01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:06,719
because of you know the whole kolaris

1609
01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:07,280
thing

1610
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:10,880
uh and the whole good and bad of the

1611
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:14,320
phenomena i actually

1612
01:13:21,350 --> 01:13:18,000
don't just run um in the field group on

1613
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:21,360
facebook but i've been running a animal

1614
01:13:26,790 --> 01:13:23,520
and cattle mutilation group

1615
01:13:29,990 --> 01:13:26,800
for just about i think seven

1616
01:13:33,350 --> 01:13:30,000
eight years now um so

1617
01:13:35,750 --> 01:13:33,360
this is another avenue and aspect of the

1618
01:13:38,950 --> 01:13:35,760
phenomena

1619
01:13:42,310 --> 01:13:38,960
that's not good i mean yeah

1620
01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:42,320
and you there are cases

1621
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:45,600
up until just last month i mean

1622
01:13:49,110 --> 01:13:48,239
and and this is going on this has been

1623
01:13:51,110 --> 01:13:49,120
going on they

1624
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:51,120
they think it's been going on well into

1625
01:13:57,430 --> 01:13:53,280
the 1800s

1626
01:14:01,030 --> 01:13:57,440
and you can take photographs

1627
01:14:04,550 --> 01:14:01,040
and put them side by side from the 60s

1628
01:14:06,790 --> 01:14:04,560
to the 2000s same cuts and it looks like

1629
01:14:10,070 --> 01:14:06,800
the same person did the surgery

1630
01:14:13,510 --> 01:14:10,080
and they'll tell you it's birds and it's

1631
01:14:16,229 --> 01:14:13,520
insects and if you if you get close to

1632
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:16,239
these photos and you look at the edges

1633
01:14:19,830 --> 01:14:18,560
there's one where the eye was removed in

1634
01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:19,840
a cow

1635
01:14:26,070 --> 01:14:23,199
and the punch took the fur

1636
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:26,080
around the eye in a perfect circle

1637
01:14:31,830 --> 01:14:28,560
punched it right out like a machine

1638
01:14:34,709 --> 01:14:31,840
wow and it's another aspect

1639
01:14:35,830 --> 01:14:34,719
of the phenomena that is really creepy

1640
01:14:38,070 --> 01:14:35,840
and

1641
01:14:40,310 --> 01:14:38,080
people don't want to look at it but it

1642
01:14:42,950 --> 01:14:40,320
continues to this day

1643
01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:42,960
no one's ever been seen no one's ever

1644
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:43,840
been caught

1645
01:14:51,430 --> 01:14:47,920
right or even um accused

1646
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:51,440
right that i've seen at least yeah no

1647
01:14:56,070 --> 01:14:54,719
and there's cases where farmers have

1648
01:14:58,630 --> 01:14:56,080
lost cattle

1649
01:15:00,470 --> 01:14:58,640
and then they've decided okay i'm gonna

1650
01:15:03,270 --> 01:15:00,480
catch these little shits

1651
01:15:04,310 --> 01:15:03,280
so they got together with a couple other

1652
01:15:08,149 --> 01:15:04,320
farmers

1653
01:15:11,669 --> 01:15:08,159
sat out there in the dark waited

1654
01:15:15,270 --> 01:15:11,679
the sun comes up mutilated cattle

1655
01:15:17,590 --> 01:15:15,280
not a sound not a light nothing

1656
01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:17,600
not even any struggling of the animal

1657
01:15:22,149 --> 01:15:19,920
they heard nothing

1658
01:15:24,310 --> 01:15:22,159
and so but then there's other cases

1659
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:24,320
where they see a bright light there's a

1660
01:15:27,910 --> 01:15:25,600
famous case over in

1661
01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:27,920
england it happened in the early 2000s

1662
01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:29,120
where

1663
01:15:32,709 --> 01:15:31,280
a man saw this light out the window of

1664
01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:32,719
his house so he began to

1665
01:15:36,149 --> 01:15:35,600
film and underneath the light there's

1666
01:15:38,950 --> 01:15:36,159
something

1667
01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:38,960
hanging there so he's looking at it he's

1668
01:15:44,470 --> 01:15:40,719
looking and he can't figure it out

1669
01:15:47,669 --> 01:15:44,480
but the light was over a buffalo farm

1670
01:15:50,229 --> 01:15:47,679
so in the next couple days

1671
01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:50,239
he approached them and he said did you

1672
01:15:54,709 --> 01:15:51,600
lose

1673
01:15:57,270 --> 01:15:54,719
you know one of your and they was

1674
01:15:59,189 --> 01:15:57,280
yeah and the footage is online it's kind

1675
01:15:59,990 --> 01:15:59,199
of blurry and you can't really make out

1676
01:16:03,110 --> 01:16:00,000
a lot

1677
01:16:07,510 --> 01:16:03,120
but they lost shouldn't be making out

1678
01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:07,520
with people online anyways

1679
01:16:11,189 --> 01:16:10,560
you know but they did they uh you know

1680
01:16:13,510 --> 01:16:11,199
that whole

1681
01:16:16,149 --> 01:16:13,520
aspect of the phenomena has always

1682
01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:16,159
fascinated me it's really creepy

1683
01:16:20,070 --> 01:16:18,960
and very creepy i mean what's the point

1684
01:16:23,590 --> 01:16:20,080
or are they eat

1685
01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:23,600
you know do they need the protein

1686
01:16:28,310 --> 01:16:26,080
some researchers think that because of

1687
01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:28,320
the fact that they're taking

1688
01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:31,360
the tongue the anus

1689
01:16:36,950 --> 01:16:34,480
the sex organs that they're

1690
01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:36,960
looking at what's our in our environment

1691
01:16:43,270 --> 01:16:39,760
and what we're doing to our environment

1692
01:16:44,709 --> 01:16:43,280
so bovine blood is very close to human

1693
01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:44,719
blood

1694
01:16:50,550 --> 01:16:48,480
and so it would be kind of

1695
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:50,560
common sense okay let's go take to the

1696
01:16:54,709 --> 01:16:51,840
parts of the cow

1697
01:16:56,550 --> 01:16:54,719
and these humans are eating these cows

1698
01:16:59,590 --> 01:16:56,560
so let's go look at that

1699
01:17:03,830 --> 01:16:59,600
but on the other hand they

1700
01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:03,840
found uh deer out in the woods with a

1701
01:17:09,430 --> 01:17:06,000
quarter inch hole in the forehead

1702
01:17:12,229 --> 01:17:09,440
and the brain has gone out of the skull

1703
01:17:13,110 --> 01:17:12,239
they have found uh all kinds of other

1704
01:17:15,189 --> 01:17:13,120
animals

1705
01:17:16,390 --> 01:17:15,199
not just cattle but tons of other

1706
01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:16,400
animals

1707
01:17:22,390 --> 01:17:19,600
um there was a whole slew of

1708
01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:22,400
sealed deaths a few years ago that were

1709
01:17:26,229 --> 01:17:24,080
washing up on the beach

1710
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:26,239
and they all had strips taken out of

1711
01:17:30,310 --> 01:17:28,320
them completely cut

1712
01:17:32,390 --> 01:17:30,320
and they tried to say that it was

1713
01:17:34,870 --> 01:17:32,400
propellers of boats and

1714
01:17:36,470 --> 01:17:34,880
you know now these are seals those are

1715
01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:36,480
cute you can't do that

1716
01:17:41,910 --> 01:17:40,080
yeah so so it's going on

1717
01:17:43,669 --> 01:17:41,920
and and it's out there and it's

1718
01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:43,679
happening but people just don't want to

1719
01:17:48,229 --> 01:17:45,120
look at it

1720
01:17:50,790 --> 01:17:48,239
well we are yeah i mean

1721
01:17:51,830 --> 01:17:50,800
i'll continue to keep looking at it it's

1722
01:17:54,070 --> 01:17:51,840
it's

1723
01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:54,080
i told somebody online the other day i

1724
01:17:57,510 --> 01:17:55,280
said

1725
01:17:59,510 --> 01:17:57,520
and and i told you about i sent you the

1726
01:18:03,790 --> 01:17:59,520
documentary about my early life

1727
01:18:07,189 --> 01:18:03,800
and yeah i think that i think

1728
01:18:09,110 --> 01:18:07,199
subconsciously that something frightened

1729
01:18:12,550 --> 01:18:09,120
me as a child

1730
01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:12,560
and then as i got older and i had those

1731
01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:15,440
situations with the sleep paralysis that

1732
01:18:19,030 --> 01:18:15,920
something

1733
01:18:22,229 --> 01:18:19,040
frightened me as an adult and for me

1734
01:18:24,310 --> 01:18:22,239
to keep looking at it is kind of like

1735
01:18:25,270 --> 01:18:24,320
trying to peer into the dark to see

1736
01:18:27,590 --> 01:18:25,280
what's in there

1737
01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:27,600
over and over and face your feet yeah

1738
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:28,480
because

1739
01:18:34,229 --> 01:18:32,159
you know i fear it so i'm gonna look at

1740
01:18:37,110 --> 01:18:34,239
it because i want to know what it is

1741
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:37,120
and i want to know why yes why did it

1742
01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:38,239
scare me

1743
01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:40,960
you know what is it about it that scared

1744
01:18:43,669 --> 01:18:41,679
me

1745
01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:43,679
and so i'm just gonna continue to keep

1746
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:44,880
looking at it

1747
01:18:52,149 --> 01:18:48,560
that's uh that's a strong person

1748
01:18:54,149 --> 01:18:52,159
you know getting scared and

1749
01:18:56,709 --> 01:18:54,159
not backing down because i mean how many

1750
01:18:58,390 --> 01:18:56,719
times has fear just controlled the

1751
01:19:00,950 --> 01:18:58,400
decisions we make in our life

1752
01:19:02,870 --> 01:19:00,960
right right um and when it comes to

1753
01:19:06,070 --> 01:19:02,880
something like this i'm with you

1754
01:19:07,669 --> 01:19:06,080
um i don't care if it you know whatever

1755
01:19:08,550 --> 01:19:07,679
wants to do to me i'll stare right in

1756
01:19:10,390 --> 01:19:08,560
its eyes

1757
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:10,400
until it tells me what it wants and what

1758
01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:11,840
it is you know

1759
01:19:17,189 --> 01:19:14,960
exactly um so but

1760
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:17,199
you know but i won't go up to it and

1761
01:19:19,750 --> 01:19:18,290
touch it randomly

1762
01:19:21,780 --> 01:19:19,760
[Laughter]

1763
01:19:24,229 --> 01:19:21,790
what what no hugs

1764
01:19:27,350 --> 01:19:24,239
[Laughter]

1765
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:27,360
um you guys can check

1766
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:29,840
check out uh scott's youtube channel

1767
01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:31,679
because that's where he has the video

1768
01:19:34,630 --> 01:19:33,280
that we were just talking about about

1769
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:34,640
his story

1770
01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:37,840
um i definitely recommend uh you watch

1771
01:19:42,310 --> 01:19:38,320
it

1772
01:19:44,229 --> 01:19:42,320
um i i don't think there's any

1773
01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:44,239
other way to really hear those stories

1774
01:19:48,790 --> 01:19:45,679
than first person from

1775
01:19:50,229 --> 01:19:48,800
from the the witness and you know right

1776
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:50,239
the person who went through it that's

1777
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:51,600
that's

1778
01:19:55,430 --> 01:19:53,600
pretty powerful and there's things that

1779
01:19:57,669 --> 01:19:55,440
were left out of it too like i couldn't

1780
01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:57,679
really put everything in it

1781
01:20:02,390 --> 01:20:00,800
but i didn't include all of the high

1782
01:20:05,750 --> 01:20:02,400
strangeness like

1783
01:20:07,990 --> 01:20:05,760
stuff moving around uh there was one day

1784
01:20:11,189 --> 01:20:08,000
where i came home from work

1785
01:20:14,629 --> 01:20:11,199
set my keys down on the table

1786
01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:14,639
uh went to go do something else

1787
01:20:19,350 --> 01:20:17,199
couldn't find my keys anywhere and i and

1788
01:20:23,510 --> 01:20:19,360
i distinctly remember

1789
01:20:25,669 --> 01:20:23,520
putting them on the table and

1790
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:25,679
so of course i'm frantically searching

1791
01:20:29,590 --> 01:20:27,360
because i gotta take off

1792
01:20:31,030 --> 01:20:29,600
did you go back and the keys were there

1793
01:20:34,149 --> 01:20:31,040
no i actually

1794
01:20:36,950 --> 01:20:34,159
went up two floors

1795
01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:36,960
and began to search everywhere not

1796
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:38,480
knowing why

1797
01:20:46,470 --> 01:20:43,199
and up on a high shelf were the keys

1798
01:20:47,830 --> 01:20:46,480
and i said to myself there's no way that

1799
01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:47,840
one of the kids did it because they

1800
01:20:51,910 --> 01:20:49,360
couldn't reach up there

1801
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:51,920
you know it's almost like it's it's

1802
01:20:58,870 --> 01:20:52,480
playing

1803
01:21:01,189 --> 01:20:58,880
games oh my gosh that is

1804
01:21:02,070 --> 01:21:01,199
yeah no because i've had an experience

1805
01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:02,080
where

1806
01:21:11,189 --> 01:21:09,520
i'm like i'm looking for something and i

1807
01:21:13,990 --> 01:21:11,199
kind of get pissed off like come on

1808
01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:14,000
i put it right here where is it you know

1809
01:21:17,189 --> 01:21:15,600
and i'm looking in other rooms but i'm

1810
01:21:18,629 --> 01:21:17,199
thinking like why am i even looking here

1811
01:21:21,430 --> 01:21:18,639
i didn't put it here

1812
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:21,440
you know but i've had it where i've gone

1813
01:21:25,430 --> 01:21:22,080
back

1814
01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:25,440
and it it was right there you know but

1815
01:21:30,149 --> 01:21:28,080
and it wasn't like a you know a

1816
01:21:32,470 --> 01:21:30,159
disorganized dairy or anything it would

1817
01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:32,480
would have just been the thing and then

1818
01:21:37,110 --> 01:21:34,320
that's happened to me too

1819
01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:37,120
yeah but that is like the perfect joke

1820
01:21:40,870 --> 01:21:38,400
because you'll never trust

1821
01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:40,880
yourself on that like i just forgot all

1822
01:21:50,470 --> 01:21:47,030
you'll never commit to there's somebody

1823
01:21:53,750 --> 01:21:52,070
but that could be said for all this

1824
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:53,760
stuff hey like

1825
01:21:57,669 --> 01:21:55,440
it gets to a certain point where you

1826
01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:57,679
start experiencing more of the high

1827
01:22:01,990 --> 01:21:59,440
strangeness or

1828
01:22:03,510 --> 01:22:02,000
or you know personal experiences like at

1829
01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:03,520
what point do you

1830
01:22:07,430 --> 01:22:06,560
trust yourself or check yourself in yeah

1831
01:22:10,709 --> 01:22:07,440
there's no

1832
01:22:12,870 --> 01:22:10,719
the saying from years ago uh and i can't

1833
01:22:14,870 --> 01:22:12,880
remember exactly who said it and there's

1834
01:22:18,070 --> 01:22:14,880
a bunch of different versions of it

1835
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:18,080
but there's one saying that says once

1836
01:22:21,910 --> 01:22:20,400
you become aware of the phenomena it

1837
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:21,920
becomes aware of you

1838
01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:26,400
okay and so i think that

1839
01:22:31,590 --> 01:22:29,520
you know for some researchers the

1840
01:22:32,470 --> 01:22:31,600
strangeness started right after they had

1841
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:32,480
a sighting

1842
01:22:35,910 --> 01:22:34,960
you know it just began weird stuff

1843
01:22:38,950 --> 01:22:35,920
moving around

1844
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:38,960
sounds voices um

1845
01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:41,760
you know and for me when it happens to

1846
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:44,320
me it used to freak me out and now it's

1847
01:22:47,830 --> 01:22:45,120
kind of like

1848
01:22:49,830 --> 01:22:47,840
okay really we're going to do this again

1849
01:22:54,470 --> 01:22:49,840
it's rich

1850
01:23:00,709 --> 01:22:58,709
not yeah so you know i mean

1851
01:23:01,990 --> 01:23:00,719
yeah there's some people have it and

1852
01:23:04,790 --> 01:23:02,000
some don't

1853
01:23:06,629 --> 01:23:04,800
they call it a hitchhiker yes yes it's a

1854
01:23:08,229 --> 01:23:06,639
hitchhiker you know that reminded me of

1855
01:23:10,709 --> 01:23:08,239
um

1856
01:23:11,270 --> 01:23:10,719
somebody asked lou elizondo at one point

1857
01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:11,280
if he

1858
01:23:14,790 --> 01:23:13,520
started to have any different kinds of

1859
01:23:16,149 --> 01:23:14,800
experiences when he started

1860
01:23:19,510 --> 01:23:16,159
investigating

1861
01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:19,520
and he definitely said that there were

1862
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:20,159
uh

1863
01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:21,440
let's say an uptick in the

1864
01:23:27,189 --> 01:23:23,920
synchronicities

1865
01:23:29,750 --> 01:23:27,199
yeah those are weird

1866
01:23:30,790 --> 01:23:29,760
those are weird that's what i get all

1867
01:23:34,709 --> 01:23:30,800
the time

1868
01:23:37,270 --> 01:23:34,719
yeah or deja vu yeah but you know

1869
01:23:39,430 --> 01:23:37,280
i don't get that a lot but i get it so

1870
01:23:42,470 --> 01:23:39,440
randomly enough to where it has to

1871
01:23:44,070 --> 01:23:42,480
probably mean something you know yeah

1872
01:23:46,070 --> 01:23:44,080
because it is sometimes at very

1873
01:23:49,990 --> 01:23:46,080
interesting points in my life too

1874
01:23:51,430 --> 01:23:50,000
yeah but um anything else you want to

1875
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:51,440
talk about

1876
01:23:57,669 --> 01:23:54,480
uh just uh you know keep

1877
01:24:00,709 --> 01:23:57,679
keep uh stay tuned to uh

1878
01:24:01,990 --> 01:24:00,719
um i'm teaming up with uh erica luke's i

1879
01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:02,000
don't know if you know who she

1880
01:24:06,709 --> 01:24:06,159
is um she's been on the travel channel

1881
01:24:14,070 --> 01:24:06,719
and

1882
01:24:16,629 --> 01:24:14,080
near

1883
01:24:18,629 --> 01:24:16,639
skinwalker ranch and she's done

1884
01:24:20,709 --> 01:24:18,639
investigations out there

1885
01:24:22,310 --> 01:24:20,719
good friend of mine so we're teaming up

1886
01:24:25,189 --> 01:24:22,320
and we're going to form our own

1887
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:25,199
kind of podcast oh no complicated

1888
01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:27,600
feeding with me

1889
01:24:30,550 --> 01:24:28,960
but it's going to be different than

1890
01:24:31,110 --> 01:24:30,560
other podcasts we're going to have

1891
01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:31,120
different

1892
01:24:35,669 --> 01:24:33,920
segments that are going to cover

1893
01:24:37,669 --> 01:24:35,679
different things so

1894
01:24:38,709 --> 01:24:37,679
yeah that's the only thing i could i

1895
01:24:41,270 --> 01:24:38,719
could say is

1896
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:41,280
uh for myself and others is maybe some

1897
01:24:45,189 --> 01:24:42,800
more

1898
01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:45,199
uh study-based stuff for research-based

1899
01:24:49,510 --> 01:24:47,280
stuff you know

1900
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:49,520
yeah that's always that always i mean

1901
01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:50,880
for me

1902
01:24:55,030 --> 01:24:52,800
you know in the ones that you've done

1903
01:24:58,229 --> 01:24:55,040
with the documents that you've uncovered

1904
01:25:00,310 --> 01:24:58,239
yeah that kind of stuff keeps me engaged

1905
01:25:03,830 --> 01:25:00,320
you know some people are like oh christ

1906
01:25:06,790 --> 01:25:03,840
here he goes with the damn papers again

1907
01:25:07,189 --> 01:25:06,800
but for me i i love listening to that

1908
01:25:10,830 --> 01:25:07,199
stuff

1909
01:25:12,550 --> 01:25:10,840
i like history and it's it's just a

1910
01:25:14,790 --> 01:25:12,560
mystery yes

1911
01:25:16,070 --> 01:25:14,800
that's what it is i think exactly yeah

1912
01:25:19,350 --> 01:25:16,080
we like the history

1913
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:19,360
and i'm a huge history buff so it just

1914
01:25:24,229 --> 01:25:21,600
bleeds over into the ufology you know

1915
01:25:24,950 --> 01:25:24,239
yeah and it's just for the documents for

1916
01:25:28,149 --> 01:25:24,960
me

1917
01:25:28,870 --> 01:25:28,159
it's it's just really i think i like

1918
01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:28,880
sometimes

1919
01:25:32,470 --> 01:25:30,719
just finding these things because

1920
01:25:35,510 --> 01:25:32,480
they're so old

1921
01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:35,520
and it's this different time and place

1922
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:35,840
in

1923
01:25:44,790 --> 01:25:42,480
you know it's it's [\h__\h] cool

1924
01:25:45,910 --> 01:25:44,800
it is it is then you find something a

1925
01:25:50,870 --> 01:25:45,920
little

1926
01:25:52,709 --> 01:25:50,880
not so good yeah like you are bad boys

1927
01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:52,719
and and you know i mean you're bringing

1928
01:25:56,629 --> 01:25:54,000
it to generations

1929
01:25:57,830 --> 01:25:56,639
who yeah half the time don't even know

1930
01:26:00,149 --> 01:25:57,840
it exists

1931
01:26:01,350 --> 01:26:00,159
right completely you bring it out there

1932
01:26:04,070 --> 01:26:01,360
and they go wow

1933
01:26:04,629 --> 01:26:04,080
where'd you get that you know yeah or

1934
01:26:07,669 --> 01:26:04,639
like

1935
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:07,679
these some people i think um you know to

1936
01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:09,040
no fault of theirs but they don't

1937
01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:10,400
realize that

1938
01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:12,880
the characteristics as described to

1939
01:26:17,510 --> 01:26:13,679
these things

1940
01:26:21,110 --> 01:26:17,520
are the same exactly as they've been

1941
01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:21,120
exactly documented by our government

1942
01:26:25,590 --> 01:26:23,920
you know and when they start slapping

1943
01:26:28,070 --> 01:26:25,600
drone labels on it

1944
01:26:29,110 --> 01:26:28,080
people are like yeah just a bunch of

1945
01:26:32,229 --> 01:26:29,120
drones

1946
01:26:32,870 --> 01:26:32,239
but it's been there it's always been

1947
01:26:35,590 --> 01:26:32,880
there it's

1948
01:26:36,709 --> 01:26:35,600
never went away you know it's people

1949
01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:36,719
don't get it

1950
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:39,040
the thing is is i think there probably

1951
01:26:43,189 --> 01:26:40,560
is

1952
01:26:45,350 --> 01:26:43,199
you know some kind of drones involved in

1953
01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:45,360
maybe different instances or whatever

1954
01:26:50,950 --> 01:26:49,120
i i would agree yeah so it

1955
01:26:53,430 --> 01:26:50,960
you know here we are again put a little

1956
01:26:55,390 --> 01:26:53,440
truth in it you know

1957
01:26:58,070 --> 01:26:55,400
yeah there aren't drones

1958
01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:58,080
[Laughter]

1959
01:27:02,390 --> 01:27:00,560
uh watch yeah and you know as time

1960
01:27:04,070 --> 01:27:02,400
progresses and we become more advanced

1961
01:27:05,669 --> 01:27:04,080
it will become increasingly more

1962
01:27:06,229 --> 01:27:05,679
difficult to tell the difference between

1963
01:27:10,470 --> 01:27:06,239
the two

1964
01:27:12,550 --> 01:27:10,480
you know right at least like out in the

1965
01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:12,560
sky or whatever you know just looking at

1966
01:27:15,669 --> 01:27:13,920
it

1967
01:27:19,750 --> 01:27:15,679
um hopefully we won't be able to

1968
01:27:21,830 --> 01:27:19,760
replicate the high strangeness aspect

1969
01:27:23,110 --> 01:27:21,840
yeah that would be a little crazy yeah i

1970
01:27:26,149 --> 01:27:23,120
wouldn't want anyone having that

1971
01:27:29,750 --> 01:27:28,870
all right scott i'll let you go um i

1972
01:27:33,910 --> 01:27:29,760
appreciate it

1973
01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:33,920
had a great time talking to you again um

1974
01:27:37,189 --> 01:27:36,239
you should have fun this time yeah it's

1975
01:27:40,550 --> 01:27:37,199
been awesome and

1976
01:27:41,350 --> 01:27:40,560
and i'll come back any time yeah i look

1977
01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:41,360
forward to it

1978
01:27:44,629 --> 01:27:43,199
so can't wait to check out your new

1979
01:27:47,590 --> 01:27:44,639
channel too you guys

1980
01:27:48,390 --> 01:27:47,600
uh check out his youtube channel and you

1981
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:48,400
can follow him

1982
01:27:54,470 --> 01:27:51,760
on twitter at s brown itf

1983
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:54,480
he follows me he may follow you but you

1984
01:27:57,830 --> 01:27:55,650
gotta be cool

1985
01:27:59,669 --> 01:27:57,840
[Laughter]

1986
01:28:01,110 --> 01:27:59,679
all right john thank you all right

1987
01:28:04,310 --> 01:28:01,120
thanks scott you take care

1988
01:28:08,149 --> 01:28:04,320
have a good one you too bye

1989
01:28:11,830 --> 01:28:08,159
all right that was fantastic

1990
01:28:15,189 --> 01:28:11,840
um man really

1991
01:28:18,709 --> 01:28:15,199
really talked about some not so nice

1992
01:28:20,790 --> 01:28:18,719
aspects of this phenomenon um

1993
01:28:22,950 --> 01:28:20,800
so i think it's important to remember

1994
01:28:24,310 --> 01:28:22,960
that when people kind of complain about

1995
01:28:25,189 --> 01:28:24,320
the threat narrative the threat

1996
01:28:27,830 --> 01:28:25,199
narrative

1997
01:28:29,590 --> 01:28:27,840
i don't know that that's just loosely

1998
01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:29,600
thrown out at people

1999
01:28:33,430 --> 01:28:31,760
um you know considering all the reports

2000
01:28:36,149 --> 01:28:33,440
from our government always end with and

2001
01:28:39,910 --> 01:28:36,159
we see no reason for it to be a threat

2002
01:28:40,870 --> 01:28:39,920
but then we have cases like that in

2003
01:28:42,229 --> 01:28:40,880
brazil

2004
01:28:44,149 --> 01:28:42,239
and i guess there was another one just

2005
01:28:47,910 --> 01:28:44,159
like it in indonesia

2006
01:28:49,750 --> 01:28:47,920
um and even things like um mantel there

2007
01:28:51,590 --> 01:28:49,760
was this case where he chased

2008
01:28:54,149 --> 01:28:51,600
uh one of these things up in the sky

2009
01:28:57,590 --> 01:28:54,159
over our country he was an air force

2010
01:29:00,470 --> 01:28:57,600
pilot he chased it and

2011
01:29:00,790 --> 01:29:00,480
his plane just fell straight from the

2012
01:29:04,629 --> 01:29:00,800
air

2013
01:29:06,950 --> 01:29:04,639
and crashed and he died um and i have

2014
01:29:10,709 --> 01:29:06,960
all the documents on that that i got

2015
01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:10,719
just recently and it's

2016
01:29:13,910 --> 01:29:12,239
it's just for the sake of those people

2017
01:29:14,550 --> 01:29:13,920
can we just be honest with each other

2018
01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:14,560
please

2019
01:29:20,709 --> 01:29:18,400
you know it's like life's don't matter

2020
01:29:22,070 --> 01:29:20,719
like the government just acts like it

2021
01:29:25,270 --> 01:29:22,080
like

2022
01:29:28,229 --> 01:29:25,280
an individual alone

2023
01:29:29,510 --> 01:29:28,239
doesn't matter um and that is farthest

2024
01:29:32,550 --> 01:29:29,520
from the truth

2025
01:29:33,669 --> 01:29:32,560
and you know i hope that the good ones

2026
01:29:34,629 --> 01:29:33,679
in the government because i know there

2027
01:29:37,270 --> 01:29:34,639
are

2028
01:29:38,790 --> 01:29:37,280
we'll start out weighing um you know the

2029
01:29:40,870 --> 01:29:38,800
ones that don't really want to pay so

2030
01:29:43,669 --> 01:29:40,880
much attention to this

2031
01:29:44,629 --> 01:29:43,679
so uh with that being said don't forget

2032
01:29:48,229 --> 01:29:44,639
we have a

2033
01:29:51,270 --> 01:29:48,239
great great great week

2034
01:29:55,350 --> 01:29:51,280
coming up um and i

2035
01:29:58,629 --> 01:29:55,360
will show you that via

2036
01:30:00,790 --> 01:29:58,639
the video i made for the schedule

2037
01:30:02,470 --> 01:30:00,800
and with that i'll let you guys go and i

2038
01:30:05,590 --> 01:30:02,480
will see you tomorrow because tomorrow

2039
01:30:08,709 --> 01:30:05,600
is gonna be a big day we got steve

2040
01:30:10,470 --> 01:30:08,719
bassett um that's going to be in the

2041
01:30:12,550 --> 01:30:10,480
evening so that's going to be a later

2042
01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:12,560
show today's show is going to be with

2043
01:30:16,390 --> 01:30:12,960
mark

2044
01:30:20,229 --> 01:30:16,400
fiorentini fiorentino who

2045
01:30:22,950 --> 01:30:20,239
is has a book and put together

2046
01:30:24,470 --> 01:30:22,960
um you know kind of combining einstein's

2047
01:30:28,950 --> 01:30:24,480
theory with his own

2048
01:30:31,910 --> 01:30:28,960
to figure out um a lot and

2049
01:30:32,870 --> 01:30:31,920
i'm not so hot on the science side um so

2050
01:30:35,990 --> 01:30:32,880
i look forward

2051
01:30:37,430 --> 01:30:36,000
to learning um

2052
01:30:39,229 --> 01:30:37,440
yeah and hopefully you'll be here

2053
01:30:42,870 --> 01:30:39,239
learning with me on

2054
01:30:46,149 --> 01:30:42,880
wednesday we have jesse peak

2055
01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:46,159
a mufon field investigator so that is

2056
01:30:51,030 --> 01:30:47,520
awesome

2057
01:30:54,149 --> 01:30:51,040
on thursday thursday is a

2058
01:30:58,629 --> 01:30:54,159
jam-packed day i have two interviews

2059
01:31:06,870 --> 01:30:58,639
first we have nick pope right after nick

2060
01:31:11,189 --> 01:31:09,430
so that's a great day which is a part of

2061
01:31:15,350 --> 01:31:11,199
an even better week

2062
01:31:18,790 --> 01:31:15,360
and on friday to cap it off

2063
01:31:21,110 --> 01:31:18,800
we have david marlar

2064
01:31:23,030 --> 01:31:21,120
so i really look forward to talking to

2065
01:31:26,870 --> 01:31:23,040
him picking his brain about

2066
01:31:29,110 --> 01:31:26,880
um triangle and pyramid ufos

2067
01:31:29,990 --> 01:31:29,120
and yeah this whole week is gonna be

2068
01:31:33,750 --> 01:31:30,000
just great

2069
01:31:35,990 --> 01:31:33,760
so um please hang in there with me

2070
01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:36,000
and check out these episodes share it

2071
01:31:40,149 --> 01:31:37,600
spread it around

2072
01:31:40,950 --> 01:31:40,159
so people don't miss out on it i'm gonna

2073
01:31:43,189 --> 01:31:40,960
put um

2074
01:31:45,189 --> 01:31:43,199
a lot of effort into making these great

2075
01:31:47,110 --> 01:31:45,199
pieces with these guests

2076
01:31:48,470 --> 01:31:47,120
um and i don't say that stuff lightly so

2077
01:31:51,030 --> 01:31:48,480
i really um

2078
01:31:52,790 --> 01:31:51,040
hope that you spread the love share this

2079
01:31:53,590 --> 01:31:52,800
stuff get people to subscribe to the

2080
01:31:56,629 --> 01:31:53,600
channel

2081
01:32:00,950 --> 01:31:56,639
follow me on twitter or instagram

2082
01:32:04,950 --> 01:32:00,960
uh so you know this voice can move on

2083
01:32:08,870 --> 01:32:04,960
um and yeah i thank you

2084
01:32:19,990 --> 01:32:08,880
for watching today and i look forward

2085
01:32:38,830 --> 01:32:26,260
i'm witnessing

2086
01:32:41,630 --> 01:32:38,840
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